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切尼:1 月 6 日委员会有“第一手证词”表明伊万卡要求特朗普在叛乱期间进行干预

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华盛顿(美国有线电视新闻网)1 6 日调查的众议院特别委员会成员周日表示,他们有关于在致命袭击当天与前总统唐纳德特朗普通信的重要证词。

怀俄明州众议员、委员会副主席、两名共和党成员之一的利兹·切尼告诉美国广播公司新闻,该小组有“第一手证词”,即在袭击期间,特朗普的女儿和当时的高级顾问伊万卡特朗普要求他进行干预。密西西比州民主党众议员本尼汤普森告诉美国有线电视新闻网,该小组有“重要证词”,表明白宫“已被告知要做某事”。

切尼告诉美国广播公司新闻:“我们认识他的女儿——我们有第一手证据表明他的女儿伊万卡至少进来两次,要求他‘请停止这种暴力行为'。”美国有线电视新闻网此前曾报道过其中一些互动,华盛顿邮报记者卡罗尔·莱昂尼格和菲利普·鲁克在《我一个人可以解决》一书中对此进行了描述。

汤普森周日在“国情咨文”节目中告诉美国有线电视新闻网的达纳·巴什:“我们有重要的证词,让我们相信白宫已被告知要做某事。我们想核实所有这些,以便在我们制作报告时并当我们举行听证会时,公众将有机会亲眼目睹。”

他补充说:“好吧,我唯一能说的是,任何负责任何事情的人都在观察正在发生的事情而什么都不做,这是非常不寻常的。”

当被问及他是否认为当时的总统特朗普在叛乱期间的行为需要刑事转介时,汤普森回答说:“我们不知道......如果我们作为一个委员会遇到任何我们认为需要转介给司法部的事情,我们会这样做的。”

这些评论是在袭击发生一周年的前几天发表的,在袭击事件发生一周年之前,一群亲特朗普的暴徒暂时制服了执法人员并冲进了国会大厦,袭击了官员并摧毁了部分标志性建筑。随之而来的混乱导致多人在袭击当天或之后不久死亡,而在袭击期间响应国会大厦的几名军官后来自杀身亡。

自今年早些时候以来,汤普森的委员会一直在调查这起袭击事件以及导致其发生的事件。到目前为止,委员会的大部分工作都是闭门进行的,预计要到夏天才能发布关于其调查结果的临时报告。

主席周日表示,该小组对特朗普及其盟友围绕起义进行的潜在金融欺诈表示“一些担忧”。

“我们非常担心人们为一项活动筹集资金,而我们找不到用于该特定活动的资金,”他说。 “所以我们将继续关注它,融资是我们将继续密切关注的事情之一。

他也不会说该小组是否计划传唤国会议员,例如特朗普盟友俄亥俄州众议员吉姆乔丹,与委员会合作。

“我希望那些宣誓就任国会议员的人能够挺身而出,”他说。 “这就是我们要求他们自愿来的原因。”

汤普森表示,该小组仍在研究证词和证人提供的关于华盛顿威拉德酒店的临时“作战室”的文件,该酒店由特朗普盟友鲁迪朱利安尼和史蒂夫班农在袭击发生当天经营。

“我们的部分工作是尝试访问那天的记录,谁为此付出了代价。伯尼·凯里克很重要。他开始与我们的委员会合作,我们期待这种合作继续下去,”他说。 “酒店已被要求为我们提供信息,因此我们正在进行调查。”

CNN 此前报道称,前纽约市警察局长凯里克 (Kerik) 公开发送电子邮件,显示他切断了特朗普竞选后“作战室”所在酒店的一套房间的付款,并指示朱利安尼 (Giuliani) 领取一些的选项卡。

在接受美国广播公司采访时,切尼重申了她对特朗普未来任职资格的强烈保留。

“任何不这样做的人,任何会引发对国会大厦的暴力袭击以停止计算选举票的人,任何会在警察被殴打时看电视的人,因​​为他的支持者正在入侵国会大厦美国,显然不适合未来的办公室,”切尼说。 “显然再也不能靠近椭圆形办公室了。”

当被问及她是否相信委员会的调查和报告可以改变主意时,切尼说她有希望,因为这项工作是在两党的基础上进行的。

她说:“这是将我们一群有着截然不同政策观点的人聚集在一起,但当问题与捍卫宪法有关时,他们走到了一起,这确实给了我希望。”

Cheney: January 6 committee has 'firsthand testimony' that Ivanka asked Trump to intervene during insurrection

Washington (CNN)Members of the House select committee investigating January 6 said Sunday that they have critical testimony about communications to former President Donald Trump on the day of the deadly attack.

Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair of the committee and one of its two Republican members, told ABC News that the panel has "firsthand testimony" that during the attack, Trump's daughter and then-senior adviser Ivanka Trump asked him to intervene. And Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat, told CNN the panel has "significant testimony" that the White House "had been told to do something."

"We know his daughter -- we have firsthand testimony that his daughter Ivanka went in at least twice to ask him to 'please stop this violence,'" Cheney told ABC News. CNN previously reported on some of these interactions, described in the book "I Alone Can Fix It" by Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker.

Thompson told CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" Sunday: "We have significant testimony that leads us to believe that the White House had been told to do something. We want to verify all of it so that when we produce our report and when we have the hearings, the public will have an opportunity to see for themselves."

He added: "Well, the only thing I can say, it's highly unusual for anyone in charge of anything to watch what's going on and do nothing."

Asked whether he believes then-President Trump's actions during the insurrection warrant criminal referral, Thompson replied: "We don't know ... If there's anything we come upon as a committee that we think would warrant a referral to the Department of Justice, we'll do that."

The comments come days before the one-year anniversary of the attack, in which a pro-Trump mob temporarily overcame law enforcement officers and stormed the Capitol, attacking officers and destroying parts of the iconic building. The ensuing chaos led to the deaths of multiple people the day of the attack or shortly thereafter, while several officers who responded to the Capitol during the attack later died by suicide.

Thompson's committee has been investigating the attack and the events leading up to it since earlier this year. Much of the committee's work to this point has taken place behind closed doors, and an interim report on its findings is not expected until the summer.

The chairman said on Sunday that the panel has "some concerns" about potential financial fraud by Trump and his allies around the insurrection.

"It's highly concerning on our part that people raise money for one activity and we can't find the money being spent for that particular activity," he said. "So we'll continue to look at it and the financing is one of those things we will continue to look at very closely.

He also wouldn't say if the panel is planning to subpoena members of Congress, such as Trump ally Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, to cooperate with the committee.

"I would hope that those individuals who took an oath of office as a member of Congress would come forward," he said. "That's why we've asked them to come voluntarily."

Thompson said the panel is still working through testimony and documents from witnesses about the makeshift "war room" at DC's Willard Hotel that was run by Trump allies Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon the day of the attack.

"Part of our work is to try to get access to the records on that day, who paid for it. Bernie Kerik is significant. He started cooperating with our committee, we look forward to that cooperation to continue," he said. "The hotel has been asked to provide information for us, so we're in the process of doing our investigation."

CNN previously reported that Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner, made public emails that show him cutting off payments for a suite of rooms at the hotel, where Trump's post-election "war room" operated, and directing Giuliani to pick up some of the tab.

During the ABC interview, Cheney reiterated her strong reservations about Trump's fitness for future office.

"Any man who would not do so, any man who would provoke a violent assault on the Capitol to stop the counting of electoral votes, any man who would watch television as police officers were being beaten, as his supporters were invading the Capitol of the United States, is clearly unfit for future office," Cheney said. "Clearly can never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again."

Asked if she believes the committee's investigation and report can change minds, Cheney said she has hope because the work is being done on a bipartisan basis.

"It is very much one that brings together a group of us who have very different policy views, but who come together when the issues have to do with the defense of the Constitution, and so that does give me hope," she said.

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